After transitioning from steam energy to solar/nuclear you are left with multiple steam engines and boilers. Pump produces 1200, so you could do 50 boilers per pump if my math's correct. and a MK4 is 60% more efficienct than a MK1. Put one accumulator near your steam engines. Water goes into either of the long ends of the boiler. The steam engine is a perfect match for the boiler. I have 15x steam engines : 3x 900KW,. Ouch. Oh! Excellent. 1 pump = 1200 fluid/s, engines consume 30/s. Boiler consumes 1. your base probably only use between 51-76 KW. Steam power is a type of electricity requiring both water and fuel. However, the new boilers use a LOT more fuel than the old ones, to the point where inserters cannot keep up. 1. Factorio should give something from engineering world and unfortunately simple ratios are extremely rare in real world. But if you don't keep the boilers busy, no harm done really. 2 steam engines use up exactly 1 boiler's worth of 165 C steam (30 steam per second each) to produce 900 kw each. Yes, every other electric source such as steam engines, steam turbines or solar cells should be priorized over accumulators. Complex numbers need decisions and compromises which is real engineering. Let’s take a look at the easiest set-up. 4) electricity pole not positioned correctly to next to steam engine. Top. 8. Factorio version: 0. 510MJ/s So every chemical plant can support (10. After being distributed via pipes, steam can be used to generate electricity via steam engines and steam turbines. Fill the boiler with steam and connect the steam engine to the boiler output arrow. Consider processing the coal before burning it -- coke gets a big boost to energy over straight coal (and is a great source of sulfuric wastewater too). 480 MW / 5. Water wheels, windmills, steam boats and cargo freighters, more variants of steam generators, steam powered mechs/robots, Trebuchets. If the power draw ever drops below 1. Gregorovitch 17. 15 and had to educate myself and the layout examples I could find online were not helping. Preferred steam engine fuel. Crafting a Steam Engine In Factorio. 5) / 0. The output is much higher, 1. Also, if you want to use your steam engines/boilers efficiently, remember this ratio: 1/14/10 (pump, boilers, engines). 1 Downloaded by: 2. Plus accumlators can only output 300kw of energy a second. Put a accumulator near the pump. Steam is lower in priority than solar power. Wood will not be taken into consideration, since in vanilla it is impossible to acquire a sustainable amount of it. instead of one long, solid line for your pumps, i would recommend having several shorter pumps. It's only a problem with demand exceeds maximum capacity. 0) 0 Tileable Sulfur Factory. 0. Just don't feed more than 10 engines and 14 boilers with one pump. Steam is the only fluid that cannot be stored in barrels. Each engine can do 900kW thus you need 2 per boiler. If you’re looking at a steam engine/turbine: “Available Performance” is how much power that device could produce out of its theoretical maximum. (accumulator sends out its % charge on the A signal, so if it is less than 5% power in the system then steam engines turn on. This guide was originally written by alficles and published on gist. 1 steam engine max electricity is 510 KW. 6MW of heat for heavy. . Now, if you don't remove the boiler and two engines, then 30 solar panels would replace the boiler+two engines during the day. Pulling from a single belt in the middle of a 4 belt group. 3 offshore pumps can provide 2 rows of 23 boilers. If it’s not full then the device isn’t getting enough. Water flows, and boilers only heat water that flows through them. 400: Prototype type technology. Now set the circuit condition on the first inserter to only work when the accumulator charge is < 10%, and copy that setting over to the rest of the inserters. So,. At least it happened after you unlocked automatic rebuild blueprinting. by Loewchen » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:13 pm. But in the end they both have 40 steam engines running at 900kw. Blueprints can be exported from the game using the in-game blueprint manager. Draw a circuit wire from the accumulator to the first inserter feeding the boiler, and from there on to every next inserter. Boilers output a maximum of 60 steam per second. Thanks guys! If you're doing the tutorial, I had the same problem when restarting the damaged facility. Just 1 solar / 1 accu should be enough. I built a basic switch for backup power generation using steam engines, in case my nuclear plant can't keep up. But certain setups do seem to require more boilers per steam engine than other setups. 5) / 0. 5 (Boiler efficiency) * 26. Zobrazeno 1 – 13 z 13 komentářů. A huge thanks to to all the contributors on GitHub, as well as the community who made the previous cheat sheets and other resources; such as the Wiki, Reddit, and Factorio Discord from which this is. Connect the Steam Engine to the side that emits Steam. 7 MW. The same wording was used by the boiler back in factorio 0. From Official Factorio Wiki. Total raw 7 + 31. For a 100MW plant, I would need 50 burners - or 112 steam engines 56 boilers and 3 pumps, plus more poles and piping, taking up a much larger footprint. Craft a lab and 10 potions asap once you got more copper and iron to spare. 3833 pollutionIt's nighttime. Steam is the only non-liquid fluid in Factorio. 0, Steam Turbines were added to the game. My current solution is this. Hedning Mar 13, 2018 @ 9:21pm. Press the "alt" key and take a good look at the arrows. bug_rep. Re: Mega steam engine setup in . Internal name engine Required technologies Allows Effects Researching the Engine unit. Fel Sep 17, 2021 @ 9:01pm. Very minor issue here, because it only effects modding. if you want it compact you could use steam turbines with standard boilers like this. multiply that by the amount of steam engines and you have the total amount of items you need each second. Cybervantyz Burner Inserter Posts: 19 Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:21 pm. Recent Reviews:That then also means that each engine will only be using 7. Make sure you connect it in the right place or it won't work. As for belts, it's pretty silly: Yellow Belt: 318 steam engines Red Belt: 640 steam engines Blue Belt: 980 steam. 1 Added check to see if generator uses fluid. That should be okay. steam-engine. . Use your imagination to design your factory, combine simple elements into ingenious structures, and finally protect it from the creatures who don't really like you. The water supplies are 10, 9. (Read the Re-balance section that follows. Pros - no maintenance require, its free clean energy and produces no pollution, you simply set it and forget it (mmmmm jerky, god damn im old im sure no one will get that reference) Cons - requires a crap ton of space, the amount of solar panels and capacitors required to match a steam engine is 21. All liquid values were increased by 10x, so this is double the production. • 4 yr. And similar wording is with reactors. The design can only be used with the mod Factorissimo. WHAT: When heated water runs through a steam engine, 100% of the water used is released to the atmosphere. I think most Factorio players that have reached advanced game play (who prefer Steam) tend to use burner inserters for Boilers, for fueling Steam Engines, for Electricity. Originally posted by knighttemplar1960: You are getting into messy math territory. Steam engine's maximum effiency could be at 250°C (happy medium?) and steam turbine's at 500°C. The most basic steam engine setup in Factorio consists of a single steam engine, fed by a single boiler. 8MW) it is much cheaper than the Boiler setup you can push off the fluid handling tech branch until quite a lot later, and get electric labs and such first 3) Add a few solar cells and accumulators to the electrical network for the inserters. Build power switch, and make sure main network and steam engines are segregated with it as the only attachmenet point. Steam is a gas created by heating water in a boiler or heat exchanger. 1. . Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. ago. I don't think that steam engines should be at risk of exploding on 100% usage, because that. 46 boilers (please note the 3 offshore pumps) putting out about 80MW. To calculate how many steam engines worth of coal a fast belt can support, you may use the following formula: 8000 KW (Fuel value) * 0. Hard fix is to make a separate system of water for each. put efficiency modules in everything. something boilers, but 14 works very well and is seens as the "standard" setup for steam engines. Remember to re-balance the Main Bus lines. 1 pump = 1200 fluid/s, engines consume 30/s. If you’re looking at a steam engine/turbine: “Available Performance” is how much power that device could produce out of its theoretical maximum. Edit. It works fine, but when the threshold is reached. The "substation" at the entrance of each factory covers the entire building, so powerpoles are not necessary. Note that the steam generators are connected to the main grid, as well as the inserters for the. Each boiler is capable of producing enough 165°C steam for two steam generators. Interesting change. com 0:00 / 7:13. this is a shot of my main design ideal, its. Preferred steam engine fuel. Accumulators in the A B setup the Laser turrets will draw all of their power from the steam engines and the factory will draw no power from the steam engines. 4) For large plans you can even do multiple stages. Have your engines turn off when accumulators are at a certain capacity. Factorio is a video game that most people absolutely love. Output will scale with demand, up to the maximum potential output of the steam engine. 5Mw even with 65 steam engines. steam-engine. 8 MW. 16, so now steam engines/boilers can have a defined input/output filter in the fluidbox, or have none So they can work like in 0. Although it is possible to get energy out of mismatched systems, it's very wasteful and there's no real reason to do it. 2. 4 times faster discharge rate). Extra Info. It clearly indicates water in the pipes but if I connect any of these pipes to a brand new boiler it says "different fluids". Repeat steps 1 and 2. 10: Related Topics. Showing 1 - 15 of 32 comments. You will require a few key materials to complete this. I have everything connected correctly, yet steam engine fails to produce power. by Tertius » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:56 pm. When all three steam engines are full of steam, the energy production UI panel will then report that you have 2. . I guess. Jump to navigation Jump to search. Like the way the pipes are placed, parallel vs serial setups, watertanks, etc. so a 0. Turbines use 60 units of 500 C steam (produced by nuclear. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Steam is the only fluid that cannot be stored in barrels. You need a nuclear reactor and heat exchangers to make steam for the turbines. i have them in lines sticking out from the water, 1 pump 10 boilers 8 steam engines, i make use of underground pipes to allow easy spacing. Change the tooltip to make clear that 165°C is the optimal or ideal working temperature, since this is the temperature at which the steam engine will reach full output power at full input steam flow. 10:Steam Engine. Fel Sep 17, 2021 @ 9:01pm. It shows 1/16th of maximum because your machines/factory only needs 1/16 of it's maximum output's worth of electricity. If the water is colder it will not use the turbine's full capacity. It's the exact same as it was before. 55 = 7 boilers, one pump. A steam turbine will use up to 5. Simply put pole so this range will catch steam engine :) #1. One of the many changes included a change to how the boiler looks. First, each boiler can provide enough steam for 2 steam engines and you can provide enough water for 20 boilers with just one offshore pump. Water is fed into the boiler through the connection on the short side, as shown in the picture. 2. Steam Engines for Railroads. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If water consumption is also 50% efficient, a boiler eats 60/sec in water (steam engines eat 30/sec). Easiest solution for a player new to 'control' stuff would be a plain simple direct connection of water pump and accumulator. TrueXPixels • 6 yr. They are very important for manufacturing circuits and electrical connections. Finally, insert fuel. 75MW min so my power grows pretty fast and I can defend CME using it while growing power. Engine: Edit: Cost 15. There are four ways to produce electricity. Like all factorio machines which produces items onto a transport system, if there's no room, they simply stop. But if you then expand your factory and end up using 75% of those engines' capacity, suddenly those engines will need 22,5 steam each. coal Electric Poles Place the Offshore Pump into the water. DCYW Aug 26, 2020 @ 6:31am. You will be mining resources, researching technologies, building infrastructure, automating production and fighting enemies. But you will still need a lot of steam engines to power a medium sized base. Machines need to be connected to the same power grid in order to receive power from the engines. 8MW. Factorio is a game in which you build and maintain factories. If you’re looking at a steam engine/turbine: “Available Performance” is how much power that device could produce out of its theoretical maximum. 7 MW of power available. Take a copper cable in your hand and click on the left half of the power. Steam turbine can consume steam at a very high pressures, but steam engine is limited to fairly low pressures (otherwise it explodes). Hence you will only burn fuel during bitter attacks and can simply balance Solar Panels:Accumulators in an optimal ratio based on your factory's needs. Recipe 0. 3. 1. Your suggestion is similar to the suggestion In this thread, in which it was suggested that entities should break down regularily, so that they must be repaired by the player. Install Cheat Engine. Generators in Factorio throttle down to meet demand. like a governor on an engine. 8 laser turrets consume 1 BSU. -A list of changes/new items added to Factorio, related to steam engines, since v0. Since steam is a fluid, it can be stored in a storage tank. Connect a water inlet to the offshore pump. 83MW but it dips because the steam can't quite keep up under 100% load. steam engines will speed up when more of a load is put on them using more steam. ago. You can't practically move more than one offshore pump's worth of water through pipes of any significant distance, so each group of 20 boilers would need a seperate pipeline. Make sure the water intake of the boilers is inline with the output of the offshore pump and that the engine or steam pipe to the engine is not connected to the water supply but to the steam output of the boilers. I wonder why devs chose a external combustion engine to be the conventional electricity generator of the Game. If this bar is full then the engine/turbine is currently getting enough steam to run at full power if needed. 1 MW, with 13/14 boilers. This setup is cheap and easy to build, but it doesn't. 84 ratio between them. Boiler fuel consumption and steam engine setup optimization in 0. Turbines use 60 units of 500 C steam (produced. 3. Burner inserts give off way too much polution for my taste. 3) Add a few solar cells and accumulators to the electrical network for the inserters. #1. But as said, any numbers work . 15 when it had 50% efficiency, u had to input 3. More throughput = less distance. Which is exactly one steam engine. Post your ideas and suggestions how to improve the game. jpg. Press ALT to activate detail mode to see it better/more clear. We need POWER! Perfect ratio for setting up the steam engines, boilers, and offshore pumps that will last you into mid-game. 3) water not getting from boiler to steam engine. Switch turns ON if the accumulators drop below 30% (this should only happen if there's an attack, otherwise power stays above that level even at night) 3. Water starts at 15 degrees. 0 MW optimal) The layout of the boilers allows for inserters inbetween them. It must be placed on a shoreline of a body of water on the map, and connected to a pipe or other object that accepts liquids. 11 posts • Page 1 of 1. 1. Use the circuit network to connect an accumulator to your off-shore pump and have the pump turn on when your accumulator is below 30% or so. boilers will burn more fuel when producing more steam. Dawnchaser0 • 7 yr. Steam engines work with 500°C and turbines with 165°C even though the steam engine has "max temperature of 165°C". Stats: 136 Transport belt. If your machines don't get any power, make sure they're connected properly. No Input Fluid. From Official Factorio Wiki. Use the circuit network to connect an accumulator to your off-shore pump and have the pump turn on when your accumulator is below 30% or so. You can get fancy and leave the pump on until accumulators are back to 50% with some combinators. Solar panels basically give you free power, but you need a lot of panels and accumulators to get anywhere. 10 engines will use up 60. Re: Optimized Steam Engine Setup Post by zOldBulldog » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:14 pm Here is my take on an optimal Steam Engine setup, a powerplant that can be used early on with just a couple boilers, later expand to become the main powerplant(s), provide spike protection via steam tanks, work as backup power if there are other better. Here the contest is more even, accumulators deliver 300KW while steam engines deliver 900KW and turbines deliver 5. Showing 1 - 13 of 13 comments. There are multiple ways of getting steam to run only at night. 8MW power consumption, but at 50% efficiency, so the output is only 900kw (same as steam engine use). 1GW with landfill. ago. [ Video Tutorial] There is also limited support for the 0. For extra flavor for power management. Connect it to the rest of network via Power switch. In terms of power produced, 1 boiler can supply 1 turbine or 2 steam engines at most, and the electricity generated is equal - as is the chemical fuel and water consumed in the process. With this controller above the steam engines work only, AFTER the most accu-power is used, but not empty yet. Horoai Apr 24, 2017 @ 12:51pm. For 48 engines, you would need at least 5. Boilers have a power output of 390kW, steam engines 510kW, hence the roughly 1. Your solar power is nearly enough to satisfy all of your power consumption, so there's no reason to use any additional steam power. But here are the basics on how to use Blueprints in-game for Factorio beginners: To access your Blueprint Library, tap "B" or click the first button in the top-right of the screen in-game. 2Mw, Boilers are only burning fuel at 12% their max possible rate, because the Steam engines aren't. Researching the Engine unit allows the player access to new forms of transportation. Pipes have a limited throughput so trying. Saying that, your idea would actually be better than his current design. 225 coal/sec. If this is not the case for you then your steam setup is broken or you have a disconnected network. Possible causes are: 1) water not getting from lake to boiler. Too little water, or too many heat exchanger and/or turbines could also be a problem. 6MW of generating capacity. 337K subscribers in the factorio community. My current solution is this. Factorio. 3. ago. 4. If it’s not full then the device isn’t getting enough. Build power switch, and make sure main network and steam engines are segregated with it as the only attachmenet point. 2Mw, the Steam engines will (collectively) only generate 1. Factorio tries to keep the accus as much loaded as possible, until the power is really needed. Power generators (such as steam engine setups and solar farms. And since each wodden chest can store 1K of coal it can provide coal supply for boiler for quite some time. 1:20:40 pump to boiler to steam engine. Show Json. Which is a huge jump up from the 5MW that accumlators can have. 2X2 nuclear reactor produces 197. Ore and coal are input on the belts on the bottom right. The solution is to build: No less than 4 reactors. Mine is probably cheaper to make but it also may be less sencical over all. Help with Steam Engines SOLVED. #2 is Steam Engines. 8 MW (36. Two in series or parallel will discard 12. If the power grid they're connected to has no demand, then it won't produce power. But you can only maintain 180 fluid/s over a distance of about 2 pipes. And the math doesn't add up. 1. So it makes best sense if steam engines would consume less steam if it's overheated to. coal. 12. My previous build had something like 28 antimatter engines, used antimatter reactors for power, was 3500 sized and got to. A turbine can use 60 liquid/second, a steam engine can use 30/s. 2 steam engines use up exactly 1 boiler's worth of 165 C steam (30 steam per second each) to produce 900 kw each. 0. Downloaded by: 78 users. Efficiency is a measure of how much energy is converted to what you want it to be. e. They are significantly more powerful than steam engines (1 steam turbine is equal to ~10. In this third episode in Season 1 of my new tutorial series, I cover Steam Power including how it works, some b. Khyron wrote: I think he's talking about the water vapour clouds. PS: In Chrome, you can right-click and choose "Show Controls" to pause the Gif. Coal/fuel rod for heat and water for cooling. Eventually the stored steam runs out and you end up with 2/3 engines in operation and immediately using all the steam from the boiler for as long as there is enough power draw to need it. Perfect matches: The steam turbine is a perfect match for the heat exchanger. Consumed by. I used to just leave a coal loop running to keep them going. Heat exchangers only show how much steam is stored inside of them, not how much they are producing, so especially when using pumps, seeing 1. the boiler tries to heat water by 150 °C. Eplico • • 6 yr. ). Make your Factorio steam engines smart. Gregorovitch Apr 17, 2016 @ 9:11am. 13+. Heat exchangers have a heat capacity. The 2:1 steam engine to boiler ratio is interesting, I didnt know that, sounds like I might be able to halve my pollution. Why does this steam engine fail to run? A major update for Factorio was released the other day (version 0. 15 1:10:14 in 0. An underground pipe connects that to a line of 20 steam engines. It's not pointless, but it can be a bit hard to understand at first since. Some mods change energy rules. 1 . A belt can supply 26. Or 30 steam = 900KJ. by Madara Uchiha » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:04 am. Putting 500 deg steam into steam engines is also very inefficient, as you will get the same power output as if you used 165 deg steam, but it still consumes the same amount. 14 boilers, 10 steam engines, fully charge/decharge is 100 solarpanels , 84 accs. by Tertius » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:56 pm. 0. If for some reason you didn't, there's a video discussing steam power generation here that also goes into using inserters to auto-load coal. In terms of power produced, 1 boiler can supply 1 turbine or 2 steam engines at most, and the electricity generated is equal - as is the chemical fuel and water consumed in the process. If nothing is drawing power, they won't run at all. .